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What Service Is Needed On New Ski Bindings

 Poster: A snowHead

Poster: A snowHead

How-do-you-do Y'all. I am planning to drive to and spend the season in the alps. Since I will exist out early when conditons may exist rocky, I am taking my old skis which still have edges and base. My question is how to service and examination the bindings.

These are Salmon S12ti rental bindings. Bought in 2009, skied for 5 years, and so left in garage for v years. I have slid the heel and toe slice off. Looks a bit cruddy. Tin can these be dismantled further. Tin can I make clean/soak in WD40. What type of grease should then be applied, where and how. Is there whatever way to function cheque the bindings later on.

Appreciate any help - cheers

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I wil brand no annotate other than WD40 dries gluey and attracts dirt, then is probably not the affair to use to clean annihilation.
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ACF50 may be good for general maintenance, that stuff is amazing but I take never tried it on bindings. Just every bit said above, become them properly tested for release every and then ofttimes.
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I hear you lot nearly looking after my knees. I don't think the retail shops virtually me would service but the bindings or accept the kit to examination release. Fifty-fifty if I took them in how do I know if they only wiped them with an oily rag.

I will try to get them tested when I am out in Val, the rental shops should take the kit. Meanwhile I would like to exercise equally much as possible with them, so at least I know they are make clean and greased.

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the rental shops should have the kit

I would not accept that as guaranteed...

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Autonomously from my specific state of affairs, in that location is the full general question nearly what we should all be doing to maintain our bindings from yr to twelvemonth. I guess near of us practice nothing. How long do they last and how accurate are they after a few years?
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@AndyT, There is also an underlying question as to how accurate and effective they are when new...

Until relatively recently I recall the perceived wisdom was that they were all more or less the aforementioned. Non helped that they all more or less had identical function (Looks and Markers excepted, to a caste).

Mine get put in the garage in late April and (hopefully) taken out once again in late November. Replaced with the skis when they wearable out, or unless they break, (which a more often than not unskied heel did on me at the showtime of last winter), or I think they look peculiarly cool.

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I've had my main set for 9 years and I just regularly check they open and shut by manus to make sure they feel okay. Am sure I should be doing more (peradventure not?) - most of us here would probably welcome any advice.
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Meet http://salomontechnician.com/uploads/Salomon_technical_manual_alpine_1718.pdf - these are apparently the South 912 Ti bindings, which were declared cease of life final year, so should you accept them for servicing in the US they volition typically refuse to touch them unless you sign a disclaimer. This also has a section on servicing, and silicon lubricants/sprays are specifically mentioned as not to be used on page 70.

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Guys thank you for the comments - particularly the Alpine Workshop manual which has the meaning of the DIN setting as shown in the flick below.

There seems to be some dubiety virtually how to care for bindings. Information technology is as proficient non to dethrone the plastic in whatever way, so I I done my old S1 bindings in soapy h2o. This did not shift the blackness greasy dirt without a vigorous rub. Although I soaked the bindings, I doubt I have cleaned the inner workings and the all important spring. I have ordered some grease from SpyderJon and will apply in due course.

Given the comments and doubt most release value I made upwards a simple rig to try and exam this. Made a sole plate to match my boot out of wood and attached a lever and weight. Weight times length gives the moment which is related to DIN setting by the nautical chart posted beneath (if I can become pictures to post).

Results given in the next post.

Ok - first ever pictures posted - hope they work

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OK - now for the results.

The chart fastened shows what the DIN setting ways. Note that DIN setting depends on your kicking length. My skis are set at a DIN of eight so I know what the turning moment should be for release. Moment is simply mass(kgs).9.81.length(m). Note the length for the toe release and the heel release are different.

Offset the results for my old Salomon S12ti rental bindings. This seems to show that the heel binding is well within tolerance, but the toe release is finer 3 to 3.5 DIN lower than the setting of 8

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Decided to test my current skis which take Marking F12 touring bindings. These results seem to show that both heel and toe release well below their setting of DIN 8.

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In theory the method should exist reasonably authentic and so I am not sure what to brand of it. I have been skiing on the F12 for 4 years and have probably never been ejected. So I conclude that I should stick with those settings and that I exercise not really demand my S12 bindings prepare every bit high as 8.

Would be interesting to know if new bindings really release as per DIN and do these settings by and large fall off with age?

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How near you put the skis on and just suit the bindings until you can twist or step out of them then tighten them half a plough? It was how we used to do it and it semed to piece of work. If y'all find that's too light on the mountain, many lift stations will have a screwdriver to make adjustments.
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You know it makes sense.

@AndyT, while I am known geek.... that's really interesting and a very elegantly simple examination rig.

Which I remember I may recreate adjacent fourth dimension I'm at dwelling. I shall give you my results. I have ... 7 or so pairs of Markers to examine!

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@under a new name, Cheers, I will be interested to see your results.

@Gordyjh, I used to be able to twist and pull out of my bindings when I had young knees and a DIN of 5. I wouldn't endeavour that with onetime knees and a DIN of 8. Starting low and adjusting by trial and error is dodgy equally I sometimes ski in places where I actually don't want to risk premature ejection.

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 Poster: A snowHead

Poster: A snowHead

ousekjarr wrote:
See http://salomontechnician.com/uploads/Salomon_technical_manual_alpine_1718.pdf - these are plain the S 912 Ti bindings, which were declared finish of life last year, so should you accept them for servicing in the United states of america they volition typically refuse to impact them unless you sign a disclaimer. This also has a department on servicing, and silicon lubricants/sprays are specifically mentioned as not to be used on page 70.

IANAE...

I have found they volition non bear upon them at all even if you offer to sign a disclaimer in the SLC area in the USA. They will non even wax them.

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